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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:34 pm 
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A few weekends ago we stopped at our local "smokehouse" to buy some smoked fish. My DH went in with my oldest son while I stayed in the car with my youngest. About 10 minutes later, DS1 comes out with some candy. It's Panda licorice - which we often buy - but this is not the usual kind we buy. I notice that this kind has creamy centres... We have only bought the solid black licorice before.

Warning bells for dairy immediately go off in my head, so I ask to see the package and I read the label. Not only does it contain dairy (EEP!), there is a warning that it may contain hazelnuts (DOUBLE EEP!)!!

Kind of wondering if DH has lost his mind, I go into the store with the candy.

Well... DH had just assumed that because it was Panda, which we'd bought before, it was safe. He didn't even read the list of ingredients. To my credit, I did not flip out on him - I just went and returned the candy and got our money back. He did feel bad... and I know that he realized what the consequences might have been if the kids had eaten the candy. He's a very vigilant dad so I know it was just a slip.

When I think about what might have happened if I hadn't been there, though, I feel a bit ill. But we didn't beat it to death. (I guess that's a sign that we are truly used to this life with allergies!) A few hours later, though, I nicely asked him if would please, in future, always read the label and never assume that just because one product from a given company is safe, that all their products are safe.

I also realized that I really should make sure he knows all the stuff that I know - or at least the really important bits. :lol: I mean, I have practically memorized the national anaphylaxis guidelines (since I edited them)... but I didn't ask DH to read them or even take the time to point out the highlights to him. (Item 1743 on my list of things to do!).

I did email Panda (in Finland - http://www.panda.fi/engl/ ) to make sure there wasn't a risk that the regular licorice may contain dairy or hazelnuts. And they replied just yesterday that they were run on separate lines so there is no risk. Phew!

But please learn from our lesson: always read the label and never assume that a product is safe!!

For more info from the national guidelines, go to http://www.allergysafecommunities.ca/pa ... atsubid=36 .

K.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:15 pm 
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:shock: A close call, indeed! I'm glad that you caught it in time. This sort of thing can happen *so* easily.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:21 pm 
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KarenOASG wrote:
... but I didn't ask DH to read them or even take the time to point out the highlights to him.


Why is it that we women are always the ones holding the ball with things like this. As parents of allergic children, fathers should share the load equally (in an ideal world). He should have taken the initiative to read it. You shouldn't blame yourself for that one, Karen.

(Sorry, that's my feminist rant, but I truly am the only one dealing with all of my children's medical issues. Hubby relies entirely on me on that one.)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:04 pm 
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wow, that was a close call, good thing that you double checked!

nicole- you're right, in an ideal world it would be shared equally, but most of the time it's sitll the mother who takes the biggest chunk of the responisibility in keeping the kids safe, i think it's just part of being a mother, heck half the time adult males need their wives to keep THEM safe. whenever i think of why most men don't take the extra steps, i think of my brother in law who tells my sister all the time "but darwin' you do it so much better" and she does whatever the task is for him. why do it if a) you're not required to and b) you believe you'll do it wrong anyway and be told as much?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:13 pm 
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Speaking of men knowing what women know...I read the book What to Expect When Expecting (aka the big fat book of rules) and highlighted the stuff I thought was useful for hubby to know. Did he even look at it? Just enough to see there was a lot to read. :roll:
Glad to know that no one was harmed. Another good reason to use the read lables 3x rule. If you miss something once or twice, you might catch it the third time.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:15 pm 
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I do know where you're coming from Nicole, but I have to stand up for my hubby. He does way more than 50% of what needs doing around our house, including most of the cooking, more that his share of the groceries, meal planning, cleaning, laundry, and so on. Plus he does stuff that I don't do, like house maintenance, most of the shovelling, etc. I am probably one of the most spoiled women in the world, truth be told. If anything ever happens to him, I'm in big trouble. (Except on the allergy front! :lol: )

We are a team, and often a team has members that specialize in different things. So I do a lot of the "allergy info acquisition", and I think it behooves me to pass on what I learn to him. (Just as he is slowly passing on his amazing cooking techniques to me.) Like I said earlier, he's very vigilant. It was just a slip.

Anyway, I know that on some teams there are members who do a lot while others don't do enough, but i can't say that of my home team. (Except for the kids. They really don't pull their weight - but we're working on that! ;) )

K.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:31 pm 
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I really like your approach, Karen. I don't have kids (yet) but my partner is great about keeping ME safe, and making sure our house and boundaries are respected - he's always letting people know before they come over that if they bring nuts to our house he's leaving them (guest and nuts) outside :), which is nice, because then I don't always have to do "the talk".


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:34 pm 
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I thought about Karen's post about her DH accidentally giving the DS's licorice without reading the label, tonight when my DH accidentally brought home bread with eggs in it.

My DH is also the type to do even more than his fair share of the housework, childcare etc. He's a super involved and caring dad, but I realized that I've dropped the ball in making sure he gets his fair share of the allergy education. He carefully read the ingredient label on the bread, and it did not say "eggs" and it was a brand that we've bought before ( a different manufacturer and variety though). The label did however say "dried albumen powder" and he failed to recognize that as a danger. I have all of the alternate names for egg (and peanuts) on a piece of paper hung in the kitchen, and we've both read them, but I've read them many, many, many times over the years, because I do the lion's share of the grocery shopping, cooking, teacher/caregiver education, and allergy related research.
So I realized that it's time for a refresher course for him.
And yay for the 3x rule for reading ingredient labels! It kept our family safe tonight.

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I picked this licorice up at the store today and fired them off an email about peanuts and tree nuts -- but of course it's after hours on friday night...then I remembered that someone had posted about this product before. Karen, I have the raspberry flavored licorice, not the black licorice that you posted about. Do you know if the raspberry is also safe?


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:11 am 
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I didn't ask, but we have had it before without problems (except that the kids didn't really like it and neither did I).

The only thing I can say is: they did clearly label the other stuff for the allergens (dairy and tree nuts), and the black licorice was clearly labelled (in that it didn't have allergens), so if you trust their labelling, then I would say the red is okay.

But if you want to be really sure you would have to contact them.

K.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:59 am 
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Thanks Karen -- I tried a piece after Ethan went to bed last night and I have to say, I didn't much like it either...


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:03 am 
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I know - this is sad, but it tastes too much like raspberry paste! I like my red licorice to have a slightly artificial taste to it. :lol:

K.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:35 am 
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Me too! (that's exactly what I thought as I was chewing it!) :lol:


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Got a response today:
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Thank you for writing Elco Fine Foods.

Panda Licorice in Raspberry flavour is produced in a line where no milk, eggs, peanuts, or nuts are handled.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions or concerns.

Regards,

Irene

Nutritionist/ Regulatory Affairs Specialist
Elco Fine Foods Inc.
Phone (905) 731-7337 Ext 217
Fax (905) 731-2391

Ethan doesn't like them either -- oh well :roll:


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