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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:12 am 
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I've read that some parents and teachers encourage the use of hand sanitizers in lieu of or in addition to hand washing at schools. Does hand sanitizer effectively rid your hands of allergens?

I'd read that since sanitizer kills bacteria and viruses, and not allergen protein, it is completely useless in reducing allergic reactions because any allergens will still stay on the hands. This makes sense to me, however, I'm seeing lots of other parents talking about.

Using a baby wipe, however, would seem to make more sense because you're in essence wiping away some or most of the allergen off your hands and throwing away the wipe.

Any info on this?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:06 am 
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Hand sanitizers kill germs and bacteria. Allergens are protein. Alcohol doesn't remove protein and neither does heat (sterilized does not equal safe). It is the rubbing action that removes the protein.

I remember years ago, so talk that hand sanitizers stripped the skin of part of it's natural barrier-body oil. I don't know if there is any validity to that but it makes sense to me.

Our daughters lunch bag has a pocket on the side. I cut several wipes in half and put them in a zip-lock baggie marked CLEAN. I send another empty baggie marked DIRTY. These go into the pocket and she wipes her hands before and after eating.

We started this because she complained that there wasn't enough time to go and wash her hands and eat during snack time. I also found that supplies were sometimes missing and she is too shy to request soap or paper towels.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:31 am 
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Thanks. I totally agree with what you wrote, and it was my understanding too. It concerns me that parents are using it and thinking it will get rid of allergy proteins. . . .

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:37 am 
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Yes, many people really don't get allergies. They think in terms of germs.

We buy wipes by the case and put them into travel containers. As far as I cantell they are all equally effective. We buy the cheapest fragrence-free ones.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:09 pm 
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Do all wipes work as well even the alcohol free ones?

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:15 am 
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There was a study done a few years back about this.

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Nine hand samples were taken before cleaning, and the range of Ara h 1 was 480 to 5.6 3 104 ng/mL. Hand wipe samples were taken after each of the following cleaning methods: plain water, antibacterial hand sanitizer, Tidy Tykes wipes (Pampers, Procter and Gamble), Wet Ones antibacterial wipes (Playtex Products, Dover, Del), liquid
soap, and bar soap (Table II). Water and hand sanitizer left residual Ara h 1 on 3 of 12 and 6 of 12 hands each (range, 164-8274 ng/mL and 132-1711 ng/mL, respectively). Ara h 1 was undetectable with all other hand cleaning techniques.

http://www.inbio.com/pdf_files/publicat ... -Arah1.pdf

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:40 pm 
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Thanks for the info, Susan. Good info to have if someone suggests using hand sanitizer in lieu of hand-washing!

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:29 am 
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Thank you Susan!

Great idea to include the wipes as I had no idea they could replace hand washing. My daughter hates to go out to wash her hands.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:00 am 
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I still think hand washing is the best option but, when that's not practical wipes are an option.

We purchase them by the case (cheaper) and re-fill travel clam shell containers.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:21 am 
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Great News!! We've always used Pampers Sensitive Wipes instead of hand wipes since me & the kids all have very sensitive skin. Good to know it's equally or more effective. :D

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