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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:20 am 
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My DD1 was diagnosed with peanut, tree nut, soy/poss. legumes, chicken and egg white allergies in May this year. We've always suspected the nuts so thankfully she's hardly ever been exposed. But the chicken, soy and egg ones really took us by surprise and eliminated most of her meat diet. The first comment most of our family and friends made was "Chicken?!!? Really??" which was understandable! However, I've found it really, really hard to find meat and protein sources for her. Thankfully she loves dairy, so she eats a lot of cheese, organic yogurt (SOO hard to avoid soy!) and milk. We've managed to find a safe extra-lean deli ham (not really a fan of pork products though), and she loves tuna (which I don't love giving her as often as I do, for the mercury, but don't know what else to do) but she will eat little else. On top of numerous foods she has to avoid to keep from severe eczema outbreaks (strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, peaches, mangoes, citrus, tomatoes, a few more), she's a pretty picky eater. She's always refused salmon and turkey, and hamburgers, hot dogs, etc which I understand now that I know it was allergies. She's accepted roast beef once, we don't have it all that often (probably more now!) and she will eat spaghetti but the tomato sauce makes her eczema flare.

So my question is, how do I find meats that are safe? Is turkey or other poultry off limits? I've been scared to try because she's allergic to chicken AND eggs. Also, it's just frustrating how many meats are coated in soy protein or cellulose (can be derived from soy). What kind of recipes can I make with ground beef that don't involve all her other allergies?

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Me: penecillin
DH: Eczema, several suspected
DD1 (3yrs) Ana peanuts & tree nuts; soy, egg white, chicken, dust mites, cats, poss. legumes & latex; eczema
DD2 (1yr) Bad diaper rashes to several foods


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:43 am 
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So my question is, how do I find meats that are safe? Is turkey or other poultry off limits? I've been scared to try because she's allergic to chicken AND eggs. Also, it's just frustrating how many meats are coated in soy protein or cellulose (can be derived from soy).

I would try posting in the soy thread, I'm sure folks there avoiding soy will have great ideas. But as far as protein itself there are options for a quick fix so to say.

I have finally just given up on meat. DS used to break out in rash/hives from meat so I stopped totally for a year trying to feed it to him. He was given the ok to start eating meat after an oral challenge in the allergist's office but DS has only once eaten a teeeeeeeny speck of chicken and once a couple microscopic pieces of beef in soup I made. It isn't due to allergies but pickiness now I think.

So, since we have ourselves a non meat lover protein has always been a huge issue, especially as he was allergic to eggs and fish also and couldn't have beans until this past week. Eggs and fish he's outgrown but still won't eat...aside from oral challenge where we snuck it into food.
Basically I find a protein source and sneak it into everything and anything Ds eats.

For protein:
2 tbsp. of Sunbutter = 7 grams of protein
hard cheese has per 3 cm cube approx = 7 grams of protein
I would add skim milk (dry) powder into his yogurt 4 tbsp = 9 grams of protein
Wheat germ (Quaker in the glass jar is the only nut free wheat germ I found)...1/4 cup = 8 grams of protein

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4 yr old DS - asthma/eczema Anaphylactic to Peanuts, all tree nuts, sesame , all pea/lentil legumes, gelatin.
Allergic to trees, grass,ragweed, feathers, dander, mold and dust.
Outgrew eggs, fish, shellfish


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:54 am 
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People with allergies to hen's eggs may cross-react to two classes of foods: first, other types of eggs (like duck and quail eggs), and second, poultry, especially chicken. While most people who are sensitive to eggs can eat chicken, there is one protein that is present in both eggs and poultry -- alpha-livetin, or chicken serum albumin -- that can cause allergies to both foods.


It says "poultry" so my 'guess' is that your DD1 may react to all poultry????


Here's a few sites on cooking with ground beef. You would have to go through and adapt for the soy/egg allergy but hopefully there are a few tips you can use. :huggy

http://www.companyscoming.com/beef-recipes/
http://www.foodnetwork.ca/search/result ... eef+recipe
http://kids.cdkitchen.com/recipes/cat/255/
http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/9944.asp
http://southernfood.about.com/od/ground ... ndbeef.htm
http://allrecipes.com/recipes/meat-and- ... f/top.aspx

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4 yr old DS - asthma/eczema Anaphylactic to Peanuts, all tree nuts, sesame , all pea/lentil legumes, gelatin.
Allergic to trees, grass,ragweed, feathers, dander, mold and dust.
Outgrew eggs, fish, shellfish


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:53 am 
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Can you make little meatballs? We've been experimenting with ravioli...
Dd would eat thin slices of steak at that age if she could dip it in a safe ketchup.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:42 am 
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I started making a lot of receipes lately with curry and ground beef.

My 3 year old loves it.

But he loves cabbage rolls, so he's a little odd.

Maybe she'll like it?

I just googled curry and ground beef and just picked out things that were safe for him or things I could sub.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:48 pm 
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Tacos! (at her age maybe just sloppy joes)
Kids love build their own foods and they love to pile on the cheese (real or fake).
We make our own
1 lb ground beef
1 onion chopped
1 tablespoon garlic minced (we like our garlic!)
1 teaspoon cumin
1 tablespoon paprika
salt,pepper to taste
Brown it all up in a skillet.
1 can crushed tomatos
Simmer on low until it thickens (if I'm in a hurry, I'll add a tablespoon of tomato paste).
Serve with tortillas, sour cream, shredded lettuce, salsa, grated cheese, guacamole etc.

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Husband: no allergies
Me: allergies to some tree that flowers in May
Cat: allergic to beef, pork and lamb


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:06 pm 
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Not an expert but it sounds like she has a Seed Allergy, given many of the foods she can't eat has seeds as its most common ingredient. This leads me to suspect that Quinoa may NOT be a good choice for her, as it is a seed but does have a very good protein source (9 gms). I'd highly recommend checking with your Allergist specialist to see if she reacts to Quinoa. If she doesn't, then this is one of the better Vegan sources of Protein that is soy and mercury free.

However, 1 cup Spinach or Brown Rice does contains 5gm of protein, if she can/will eat this.

Salmon:
What I tried on myself as a kid, was to take the food item I didn't like and use only a tiny amount of it in a food I adored. I suggest Macaroni and Cheese. Over several months, I'd slowly increase the amount of yuck and decrease the amount of yum. This trained my senses to like the yuck food.

Allspice does make Salmon have a Beefy flavor instead of a salmon flavor, if she can have allspice.
Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:23 pm 
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I just wanted to write to you in support. My daughter was just diagnosed with a chicken allergy (peanuts, all nuts, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, chick peas, potato, chicken) and it's been difficult because she too is a picky eater. Which is probably understandable. Although we've been avoiding chicken since August 2010 while waiting to get in to see our kind allergist, this has been quite a blow to us.

Thank goodness for dairy, is all I can say. I am getting nervous about meeting her nutritional needs now. I just wanted to caution you about getting sliced meat at the deli counter - their cutter is used throughout the day to slice poultry products. I think that it is likely safer to buy sliced deli meat that is already packaged as they would be using the cutters on one type of meat at a time, and likely rinsing it between runs. Costco sells a Kirkland brand of roast beef that does not contain any nitrates or nitrites and is very soft to chew. I find it in the cheese/deli aisle at my nearest stores.

Good luck, and be safe, :)

Jenny

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:06 pm 
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I am getting nervous about meeting her nutritional needs now. I just wanted to caution you about getting sliced meat at the deli counter - their cutter is used throughout the day to slice poultry products. I think that it is likely safer to buy sliced deli meat that is already packaged as they would be using the cutters on one type of meat at a time, and likely rinsing it between runs.


Nice to meet you Matilda_z. :huggy I wanted to say I 100% agree with you. We avoid all open dept's, bakery, deli and even open meat from the butcher section as there are pre spiced marinated varieties.

So sorry to hear of your daughter's new allergy to chicken. Glad you found this site, hopefully you will get some great shopping tips as I know even one new food that is safe is a huge deal!

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4 yr old DS - asthma/eczema Anaphylactic to Peanuts, all tree nuts, sesame , all pea/lentil legumes, gelatin.
Allergic to trees, grass,ragweed, feathers, dander, mold and dust.
Outgrew eggs, fish, shellfish


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 8:34 pm 
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matilda_z: Chicken allergies aren't the easiest, I would agree. I make a fake chicken with tofu and Tumeric, and for others, I'd add in Celery Seed to make it taste more like chicken, instead of egg. My own chicken allergy turned Anaphylactic by smell. :lol: I used to satisfy my chicken cravings once a year, by going into a specific fast food restaurant and breathing in the smell.

A good nutritionist could work out if she's getting her requirements met. I'd find a Vegan one, ONLY because they will give you alternate sources of B12, protein, and so on. You can still give her the Beef, Dairy, and what ever Animal/Fish sources she'll eat. Its just that you'll mostly likely get someone more roundedly trained in nutrition. I just found that those not versed in Vegan diets, don't understand how to get all the nutrients from non-animal sources. Everyone knows Soy is good for protein now, thankfully. But, it would give you an extra information so that when you add in the dairy and Beef, etc. you'll know she's getting all her nutrients.

If she likes some of the Power veggies, like Kale, Spinach, etc. then she would get lots of nutrients. One mother I knew, used to sneak veggies in smoothies and did quite well. My nephew only eats veggies raw. Just a thought or two. lol

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:42 am 
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My dd has been tested for pork & chicken which came back negative, but she always complains that her throat hurts after she eats meat (mostly chicken & pork) and the other night her bottom lip actually swelled up quite a bit.

Oddly enough she sometimes can eat bacon without complaint and always McDonald's hamburgers without complaint. She also eats spaghetti with meat sauce without complaint.

I'm at a loss of what to feed her since the rest of my family loves chicken, pork & beef.

The other downfall is she has a dairy allergy which makes getting protein into her a bit difficult.

Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:59 pm 
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Amy's Mom wrote:
My dd has been tested for pork & chicken which came back negative, but she always complains that her throat hurts after she eats meat (mostly chicken & pork) and the other night her bottom lip actually swelled up quite a bit.

Oddly enough she sometimes can eat bacon without complaint and always McDonald's hamburgers without complaint. She also eats spaghetti with meat sauce without complaint.

I'm at a loss of what to feed her since the rest of my family loves chicken, pork & beef.

The other downfall is she has a dairy allergy which makes getting protein into her a bit difficult.

Any suggestions?



I suggest Tofu. Tofu is a complete protein source and is dairy free. I do have a Tofu burger recipe that tastes good. I have a version with mushrooms and one without. What helps in making Tofu taste better is Bragg's Liquid Amino's. Its a GF soy sauce that has a much stronger flavor. The recipe is below. I've added faux chicken 'recipe' notes, and other ideas below the recipe. I hope this helps. :D

About allergy testing:
What I have found in my own case is that skin testing does NOT always find the allergies. I get a severe burning sensation and asthma from Cinnamon, but my skin does not react to histamine. I also have a severe asthmatic reaction to Chicken, chicken trucks - feathers, coops and everything chicken. I can't go into Kentucky Fried anymore.

Faux Burger: DF, Gluten Free, Vegan.

Tofu 1 pkg., drained well
1/2 tsp. Allspice
1/2 tsp. Cumin
2 TB Sweet Basil
2 tsp. Coriander
1/2 tsp. Cloves
1/2 tsp. Chili Powder
3 tsp. Bragg's Amino Acids ®
2 TB Milled Flax Seed in 6 TB warm water.
Tellicherry Black Pepper, fresh grounded, to taste
Kosher Sea Salt, to taste
Olive Oil for frying
NOTE: Using Egg as a binder will make this taste eggy instead. Not recommended!

1. Whisk the Milled Flax Seed and the warm Water together. Let rest for 15 minutes.
2. Drain the Tofu well and break up into little pieces in to a medium sized bowl.
3. In a dry pan, roast the Allspice, Cumin, Coriander, Cloves and Chili Powder until fragrant.
4. Add all the Spices to the Tofu.
5. Mix very well with a fork, breaking up the tofu into a fine grain.
6. Add the Flax Seed paste, a little at a time, mixing as you add it. Mix well until everything is coated.
Let the mixture rest for 5 minutes.
7. Form into patties by pressing them very well to squeeze the tofu together.
8. Fry in Olive Oil set to Medium - High heat.

Faux Chicken

Basically, too taste:
Tofu
Tumeric (
Celery seed

If not reacting to Egg, then I'd bind this with egg whites. The Yolks would give it too much of an eggy flavor.

Sorry, but I've not worked out a recipe as I'm allergic to celery seed. I do know that celery seed with tumeric is what gives it a chickeny flavor. Alternatively, you could try and find Vegan chicken in the freezer in the Natural foods section.


Bacon, Pork:
You can sometimes find Vegan versions of bacon and ham but you would have to check the label to be sure it is dairy free. I have not read the label on Smartlife's deli-ham slices since going Gluten free. I don't remember if they are vegan or vegetarian. Morning Farms brand is more likely to contain dairy. The SmartLife Ham is good, but I've never found good bacon - nor have I figured out how to 'fake' ham with Tofu.

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