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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:24 pm 
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My 7yr old has had a strange last couple of weeks and I'm trying to figure it all out. Monday nearly two weeks ago he said he didn't feel well in the afternoon, came home, puked and went to lie down. He had GI issues Tu and Wed. By Thu he was feeling better and I sent him to school on Fri, and figured he had stomach flu, although it was strange that none of the rest of us got it.

He was fine through the weekend and until Wed afternoon when the school called saying he said his throat 'felt funny'. Secretary didn't think this was an allergic reaction because he had no other symptoms so I ran over to the school. He told me his throat felt like it took longer for air to go in and out. He said he could have had egg residue on his hands (and therefore into his mouth) from tossing woodchips with another kid who was eating egg. He looked completely normal, wasn't having difficulty breathing or any other reaction that I could see. I asked if his throat felt swollen or like something was stuck in it and he said no, it just felt weird. About 30 min later, after drinking some water, etc, he said it was probably mucous in his throat and after he cleared it, said it was gone and went back to class. He went to cross country, then soccer which were all fine. Felt fine at bedtime, and suddenly started vomiting at 2am. I was totally shocked and it went on for 2 hours off and on. So I kept him home yesterday and he had other GI symptoms (coming out the other end), but no more vomiting. And today he's fine and at home because of Pro D, but through it all, he has been fine in terms of energy level etc.

For dinner Wed night (before the big nighttime vomiting) he ate a lot of sausage, so now I'm wondering if he had stomach flu again (the rest of us are fine again), or he ate too much greasy sausage that didn't agree with him, or he was still reacting to a possible egg cross contamination exposure? DD and I also ate the sausage (although not as much sausage/pound of body weight as him!) and this is a type he's had many times before with no issue.

Any thoughts? I've been soooo careful about washing my hands after touching him or anything he could have touched because I thought it was stomach flu, but now I'm thinking it was something else.

His previous egg reaction was about 3 years ago and he accidentally ate imitation crab meat which I later found out uses egg whites to bind the fish meat together. He vomited and had full body hives. . .

I'm so confused.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:05 am 
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My daughter and I both had years of what seemed to be GI issues until we figured out our allergens and now it only happens rarely - typically after eating outside the home.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:36 pm 
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Thanks. Did you figure it out using a food diary, or ?? So these are sensitivities beyond the allergies?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:23 am 
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Mostly they are actual allergens for us.

When we both finally figured out we had food allergies (through skin prick testing and for my daughter, also RAST) and we eliminated those allergens from our diet almost all of the GI issues were gone. For me, severe abdominal pains were the only symptom I had so I was shocked to find out it was food allergies causing it.

A friend's daughter missed months of school for similar abdominal pains and saw multiple specialists and turned out to be food allergies.

I still get the pains sometimes but nothing nearly as harsh as the last one that prompted me to go see an Allergist.

It is very difficult to figure out the difference between an allergic reaction and a virus sometimes and many times I don't know the cause. I just make sure I avoid my allergens (including I never eat food from a deep fryer that also cooks my allergens, I don't eat at restaurants that serve a lot of my allergens etc) and always have my epinephrine autoinjectors nearby.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:07 am 
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Thanks so much for the info. It happened again last night. He ate brown rice pasta and tomato sauce, and cucumber for dinner, a meal he's probably eaten a million times, same brands for everything. Was feeling fine at bedtime and vomited 3-4 times between 2 and 5, then coming out other end this morning. This time Dh was dealing with it as I had to get up for an event early this morning. Arrrggghhh.

For his diagnosed allergens, he usually gets hives, itchy mouth/tongue, plus vomiting, but the vomiting is within about 5 min, and not hours later in the middle of the night, which is why I'm so confused.

I guess it's possible he's reacting to cross contam of one of his allergens in a product, or food poisoning to something? Only thing I can think of he had both nights is rice milk, which I have also had (from that carton) with no issue. . . I think I'll take him to the doctor tomorrow or day after, but I have a feeling it's going to be a wild goose chase.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:02 am 
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How awful for your DS! It could be delayed allergic reaction or a virus, but it's really tough to tell sometimes. I would get him to the doctor because repeated GI trouble is one of those things that needs medical attention, particularly in children.

Have you called to see if the rice milk could by x-contaminated with tree nuts? I had some delayed GI issues and major eczema when the brand of soy milk we were using began to produce almond milk on shared lines. They didn't add a warning to the label because they wash the equipment thoroughly between batches. The GI trouble and eczema disappeared after switching brands.

Best of luck finding the source. Hopefully it's just a tummy bug.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:15 pm 
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Thanks. Yes, the rice dream company does make almond dream but they clean lines between. Also, all other times his reaction is immediate and not 5 hours later. . . I'm looking at reflux which can occur at night with acid going back up. . . . Thanks for the suggestions. He's at home today AGAIN after vomiting last night. He's fine but I just can't send him to school if he might vomit. We have a dr appt later this morning. I'll see what he says.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:42 pm 
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Just an update: the doctor thinks it's acid reflux and gave a script for an antacid/antihistamine. I need to look into how this might affect his allergies. . .

We've also been advised to eat 4 smaller meals, stay upright (no tumbling, headstands) after eating, and sleep with head propped up so gravity will assist acid to stay put.

He did give us a lab requisition for a celiac test also.

Fingers crossed the medication helps and no more night time puking!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:03 pm 
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Alison's Mom wrote:
Thanks. Yes, the rice dream company does make almond dream but they clean lines between.


My daughter has had reactions when the allergens are in the plant and not even on the line that we contact every company about cross contamination.

Hope he is feeling better!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:39 am 
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Oh, the poor guy. And it's always incredibly frustrating when you can't figure out what's causing.

Hate to suggest but, any chance it might be a new allergen? Any common denominator in the ingreds?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:18 pm 
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Thanks Gwen and Walooet. Yes, it could potentially be a new allergen but because the reaction was delayed and therefore so different from all other reactions he's had, I was doubtful. Based on the symptoms of only vomiting at night, it does sound like reflux is the culprit. He was fine last night after two doses of the medication as well as sleeping propped up with pillows to avoid lying completely horizontally. Fingers crossed the trend continues, and that it's not celiac or another allergy.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:24 pm 
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Alison's mom, I'm so sorry to hear about what your son is going through. I just wanted to say I'm thinking about you all and wishing you all the best. I hope, and pray, you get to the bottom of this soon. Please, please keep us posted. Thinking about you all.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:51 am 
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How's he doing today? Any better? I hope his condition continues to improve with the new treatment and that it isn't anything more serious.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:23 pm 
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Thanks so much Julie and Spacecanada! Yes, he has been fine the last two nights, thank goodness. I'm really hopeful that the reflux was what was causing it. I've got cushions under the head end of his mattress to elevate his head, and I'm still keeping puke buckets handy at night though, just in case, but hopefully they won't be needed.

Thanks again everyone for your help and support.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:20 pm 
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I wonder if the vomiting caused the lining of this throat to become inflammed, giving it a 'closed'/hard to swallow feeling?

I'm glad he's doing better. :)

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